Discussing heavy metal toxicity, chelation therapy, supplements, etc… for brain fog symptoms, anxiety, fatigue.
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ALA
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Video Transcript (AI Generated)
How’s it going guys?
Welcome to today’s video.
Today’s video is for Ryan.
It’s going to be on detox stuff.
It says, “Hi Matt, I came across your video on YouTube when I was searching for enterose gel.
Like you, I see a special doctor that specializes in integrative medicine.
I deal with autoimmune and leaky gut issues.
I noticed in your video the best binders for detox.
You talk about chelation with heavy metals, but doing it in a certain way.
In the video around the 640 mark, you talk about how when you take ALA, you get a cloudy head, anxiety, out-of-body experiences.
This hit home for me because I experienced the same thing when I take certain supplements for detox/the brain, but never understood why I felt that way.
When you explained it, it could be because of the metals being broken up and moving through the body.
It appears to make good sense for those symptoms.
Soon I’m going to be taking a urine test for heavy metals and toxins that my doctor wants me to check.
She recommended that I do sauna treatment, especially an infrared one.
Does a combination of the sauna and enterose gel help with feeling better overall?
Absolutely.
Does it get rid of brain fog and tiredness associated with heavy metals?
It can.
Hope to hear back from you soon.
Thank you.
Got your email.
Sorry it took me a little while to respond to you.
This isn’t something that I can really type up.
It would take me 30 or 45 minutes to type a response to this.
It’s difficult to cover everything and all the little nuances that go along with this.
I also want to preface this with a little bit of a clarifying statement.
This video that you’re referencing that is about me talking about the best binders for detox and to use with a sauna was made a long time ago.
I can now take, this has been months if not a half a year or more.
I can now take alpha lipoic acid with no ill effects.
I can take 300mg at one time.
In fact I’ve got some somewhere around here.
I just tried it again not too long ago.
No ill effects.
I personally attribute that to a lot more sauna use from the times that I made the previous videos and my personal health and state being better or in better condition now than when I first got started.
When I was first seeing the functional medicine doctor and I was going through what it sounds like you’re going through, that was the very first visit was June 2nd, 2017.
It’s been a while.
Today is June 17th, 2019.
It’s been quite some time.
What I would like to see I also want to be really careful with what I say because a lot of times other people will come across this or you could be in a unique situation or have other health problems that are compounding in your unique situation.
But as a general rule when you take alpha lipoic acid and you have not done prior detox of any kind or you haven’t at least given your body the optimal environment to detox itself which would be tons of sauna, tons of sweating, tons of maybe even like the salt bath therapy, really really hot detoxing clay salt baths.
I can’t think of the name for them.
Some people even claim the ionic foot baths or things like that.
What I’ve noticed is that over time when I’ve done this stuff and stacked it over like a year and a half, my overall body burden of heavy metals goes down.
So then when I take things like alpha lipoic acid that cross the blood brain barrier, if there are remnants of things and they get transported and they’re not getting sucked up or I don’t take binders or whatever, I don’t have the same ill effects that I used to have.
And so I’m not a doctor, this isn’t medical advice.
I’m also not a scientist.
Basically my seat of the pants in layman’s terms, what I think is happening is that as the overall body burden of toxicity goes down, you can handle things like that a lot better.
And so when detox pathways, let’s back up two and a half years when I was really feeling like shit.
I didn’t have amalgam fillings removed yet.
I was having chronic sinusitis all the time.
I was having other inflammation.
My hands were all broken out with eczema.
I had tons and tons of allergies, fatigue.
I was feeling like I got hit by a truck when I woke up in the morning.
Things were just constantly going downhill, right?
All that stuff has continued to improve.
I still struggle with certain things, but nothing like back then.
And so, the way that I think about this is detox pathways were closed at one time, as they likely are when you get started.
And so when you take something like alpha lipoic acid, it is not only just a chelator, but it’s a chelator that crosses the blood-brain barrier.
So if you have toxicity or if you have heavy metals stored in your fat tissues all around your body, you really want to do natural things or especially things that don’t cross the blood-brain barrier in the beginning so that you can dump stuff and not perhaps have a relocation of toxicity.
There’s a better term for it.
I can’t think of the name of it.
I think it’s called like a redistribution of mercury or something like that.
And all it means is that if your body is really intelligent, right?
And it’s doing the best that it can to take whatever toxins are in it and deal with them the best way that it knows how.
There’s a couple different ways that it can do that.
The first primary way is to excrete them if it can.
But if it knows that it can’t excrete them or if you’re in poor health or your detox pathways are closed or you don’t sweat or you don’t, if you have a leaky gut and things get recirculated all the time, because that’s what happens, right?
People jump into chelation.
They don’t address the leaky gut first.
So then they start chelating, which means to pull out the heavy metals from where they’re stored.
They start recirculating these things.
The body goes to excrete them, but you have a leaky gut.
Boom.
Then it’s back into the bloodstream and it gets recirculated.
If you’re taking things like alpha-lipoic acid that can pass the blood-brain barrier and they’re latching on to heavy metals, you can, in theory, latch on to heavy metals in the gut, go past, and then back into the brain, which is the most difficult place to get things out of.
So as a general rule, again, this is not medical advice.
I’m not a doctor.
But as a general rule, you want to start from the feet up or at least as a visualization procedure or process to think about this.
You want to give everything from the neck down a chance to cleanse itself so that when you take things that are supposed to cleanse this and pull things out of the brain, there isn’t an excess from here down because then it’s going to be very difficult for the body to get rid of that and you run the risk of moving things around or like a lot of the functional medicine doctors say have a redistribution symptoms or something like that.
Whatever.
You can get all clever about how you explain it and have the terminology and medical blah blah blah but at the end of the day, half the reason why people feel like shit is because they start doing chelation therapy, especially like urine challenge therapy where they give you a super high dose and your body is not prepared to deal with that without doing any type of natural detox beforehand and sometimes it sends people into overload.
Sometimes people end up in the hospital.
You’ve got to be very careful with some of that.
If your organs are stressed like mine were or if you have if your kidneys are stressed especially, if your liver is stressed, you’ve got to be really careful with those types of things.
Now that I’ve prefaced that with all that mumbo jumbo, let’s see if I can actually give you something that will help you.
Yeah, so the first few times, I wasn’t actually taking alpha lipoic acid for those that don’t know what ALA stands for.
It stands for alpha lipoic acid.
Ryan knows this because he asked the question, but if you come across this on the video and you’re not sure, that’s what it is.
So it’s commonly prescribed along with DMSA or one of the other oral chelators and basically not all of them cross the blood membrane barrier, but when I first took products that had alpha lipoic acid in it, I would get this anxiety.
I would get this like, you know, it was like I was detached from my body or there was like it was like you went inside my brain between the skin and you just put this clouded layer.
It was like delayed thinking, out of body experiences, and that’s probably what causes the anxiety because you feel like you’re going fucking nuts and it’s, um, you can’t make sense of it.
You don’t have any reference experiences in your life that feel like this.
You think you might need to go to the ER at times.
I mean, I’ve had some pretty bad times and then that’s not good for you because your cortisol goes up.
You’re constantly worried about this.
You’re probably searching on the iPad or WebMD at night trying to research and learn because regular doctors can’t really help with this and you sort of feel stuck, which increases your stress levels and that just makes everything worse.
So in my experience, it’s this vicious cycle, right?
And so contrast that with now, I can take natural chelators or I can take cilantro and chlorella or I can take all these things that also pull heavy metals in high doses and I don’t get the ill effects.
So like I said, the way that I make sense of that is that I’ve been sauneeing for so long, I’ve been doing all these other things for so long, I’ve given my chance or I’ve given the body a chance to naturally get rid of stuff.
So now if I take chelators, the impact isn’t negative.
I’ve also cleaned up my diet quite a bit.
Probably don’t have as bad of leaky gut.
Although I don’t think that it’s, you know, unless you eat super, super, super clean and you never drink beer or whatever, I think that people’s gut permeability is not necessarily 100% in today’s world.
It’s very difficult.
So let’s see.
About the urine tests.
You know, I did the hair tests.
I don’t think the urine tests or the hair tests are really that accurate.
There’s one by Quicksilver Scientific that Chris Shade has where it’s a heavy metal tri-test where they measure urine, hair and I think one other thing at the exact same time.
That’s probably the most reliable heavy metal test that I’ve ever seen.
I haven’t used it myself.
I’ve done the hair a few times.
My last hair test is down to zero.
I have it somewhere.
I should show it to you guys.
The reason that I don’t promote that stuff and the reason that I don’t show my graphs because you can see the before and the after is because everything that I’ve learned and a lot of this stuff I learned from working or helping people with saunas that are also going through the same thing, that are seeing functional medicine doctors, that are doing all types of alternative therapies and treatments is that the hair mineral analysis can be accurate for one person and it can be completely accurate for another person.
That can also be true for you like you and me at different stages of our lives.
It’s almost like the reaction that you might get with synthetic chelators if your body hasn’t been properly detoxed first.
Let me explain how I think about this.
Instances where I’ve seen that hair mineral analysis testing especially in the beginning is not accurate.
If a person has been a lifelong welder and they have tons of heavy metals in their body and they were an alcoholic or they ate McDonald’s everyday or all these things, their liver, their organs all their processing organs are all clogged up.
The body is very intuitive.
If you’re constantly being bombarded with heavy metals because of your job or a lifelong lifestyle or occupational choices or whatever it is the body instead of allowing that stuff to be in circulation because this is the crazy thing regular doctors think that a heavy metal test should be blood work.
You cannot have heavy metals in the blood for longer than 24 hours.
The body naturally takes them out because you can’t have high concentrations of toxic materials in the blood stream for that long.
You will die.
The body naturally knows what to do with those.
Like I was saying earlier if you can’t excrete them it’s going to go to plan B.
Plan B is to store them.
It’s going to be to store them in places that don’t get recirculated and they don’t go to the brain.
It tries to do that the best it can but you’re still going to get heavy metals in the brain.
When people talk about doing a niacin detox or they talk about lipolysis and all this stuff and how heavy metals and other toxins and things can be stored in the fat cells and the tissues and the lymphatic system gets clogged and all this bullshit and this is how they become huge proponents of sauna and sweating and rebound therapy and vibration plates and the fucking stupid ass $2000 I shouldn’t say stupid.
There’s some merit to it.
All these gadgets and devices and stuff that are supposed to help people.
This is where all that comes from.
It’s because of the way these things are stored.
What the body tries to do if it can’t excrete them is store them in a safe place where it’s not going to damage the organs or if your organs can’t process that or if your detox pathways are shut down, your organs aren’t filtering correctly, the body is not going to intentionally overload itself.
What happens is a lot of times when people that are in this situation begin to implement certain things they’re in a great deal of I don’t know if pain is the right word I don’t mean literal pain I just mean a great deal of suffering brain fog, anxiety, fatigue, all kinds of weird stuff.
It can screw with them because you are now you’re chemically altering how the body would naturally deal with that stuff.
So I’m getting way off track but I want to make sure that this is comprehensive I generally don’t.
I avoid talking about this stuff just for liability purposes and I don’t want to misguide anyone.
What I do for myself or what I believe about this stuff may not necessarily be right for everyone and I don’t want it to be like what I’m saying is gospel or everyone should do what I do or that no one should do synthetic chelation because I’m not a huge fan of synthetic chelation when you can do other things first.
Later, do all the synthetic chelation you want but if you’re in poor health I think there are other things that people should do to naturally try to or not naturally but create an environment of homeostasis for the body like give it the best chance possible to deal with the stuff on its own.
Get enough sunlight.
Make sure your vitamin D and magnesium is on point.
You can do hot detox clay baths.
You can ingest clays.
Things that are gentle and sort of like natural.
The reason that you want to ingest clays or different types of binders whether you have a sauna yet or not is that they’re going to flow through the intestinal tract and start to grab on to stuff ever so gently and just kind of grab them, grab them.
Everyone wants it to happen overnight.
It’s not a one or two treatment kind of thing but what I have found, you did say one other thing I should answer it specifically.
You said does a combination of the sauna and enteros gel help feeling better overall?
Absolutely.
So it’s not just in myself but tons and tons of people that I have helped get saunas or pick out saunas or helped with EMF stuff or just talked to them basically and said hey this has been my situation.
A lot of people didn’t necessarily get great results with just the sauna in the beginning.
And it’s probably because you can see the gist of this whole video could just be summed up with we’re stirring shit up.
That is what’s happening.
Whether you’re using chelation or you’re doing this or you’re doing that, we’re stirring stuff up.
Right?
And when you stir stuff up and there’s no binders and you have a leaky gut, you know what happens.
So for a lot of people, just adding a binder makes a huge difference.
And everyone wants to be all scientific about it like you’ve got to time the fucking binder before and after your sauna session blah blah blah and all this.
As a general rule, just doing it, even if you get it all wrong, helps people more often than not.
And so, but the reason that I’m being so long winded about this is because I don’t want to just say yes, enteros gel is the way to go for everybody.
Enteros gel is silica based.
Silica has a high affinity for aluminum.
So people that have had high levels of aluminum or have been into contact with that generally have a great experience with enteros gel.
It’s also, you can go to PubMed, there’s some other studies about, um, I don’t get too much into that.
I usually just try it myself and if it helps, you know, I keep using it or I’ll listen to other people and listen to their experiences.
A lot of this mumbo jumbo research about you know, enteros gel soaking up um, oh I don’t know some type of bacterial endotoxins or some shit like that.
You can read about it.
I read about it.
I never know if some of these studies are trying to discredit something’s use or prove its worthiness.
A lot of times the study is testing the product on something that I’m not even using it for.
That’s why I get kind of I’m like yeah whatever.
You know, it’s $20.
Give it to me.
Let me try it.
So in my opinion, the using pairing enteros gel and other binders with sauna use makes a huge difference.
And it just depends on the person, depends on the stage that you’re at on your health journey.
Um, as a general rule, I 100% recommend it.
I think enteros gel is a nice, easy binder that anyone can use.
Um, there are some other metals that enteros gel probably wouldn’t have a high affinity for.
Um, some people are talking about um, lead and cadmium and there’s all kinds of things out there.
So, there’s other binders.
If you want, um I’m trying to think.
I’ll put some links in the description of this video to some binders.
There’s one, I think it’s just called ultra.
Um, it’s the one that is a mixture of silica stuff.
I think it has it may even have some chlorella in there.
But it’s got activated charcoal, um, it’s got a couple other things.
That’s the most diverse detox binder that I’ve ever gotten.
However, I have to be really honest with you.
It’s super fucking expensive.
It’s like 80 or 90 dollars a bottle.
Um, and I did not get as good of results with that as I get with just taking straight enteros gel.
What I can’t tell you and what I don’t know and I don’t think anybody really knows is whether or not that is unique to me, um unique to my metal exposure or maybe that just works better with my body.
I don’t know.
There’s so many variables and there’s so many things in there.
I don’t really feel qualified to advise, you know, anyone on the reasoning behind it.
All I can say is, um, I get better results with a 20 dollar bottle of enteros gel compared to a 80 dollar or 90 dollar bottle of this ultra stuff.
Um, and it’s supposed to bind to everything, right?
But that has also been my experience in the past too.
I’ve tried taking activated charcoal, um, compared to enteros gel.
I’ve tried taking modified citrus pectin.
I’ve tried taking, um, oh man, I’ve taken everything.
Uh, different types of zeolite, different types of, um, what’s the crushed shell one?
I can’t think of it.
It’s in the ultra binder also.
But anyway, that is been my experience.
Hopefully there is at least one little tidbit or something that you can get out of it.
I know it’s kind of all over the place and long winded.
I just don’t know how else to, um, I can’t just answer you with one word answers because then there’s no context to it.
You might run off and be like, “Oh, Matt said to buy this and do this” and then it screws you up.
But as a general rule, I’ve helped quite a few people.
Not that I, um, again, no doctor.
I don’t, you know, do any type of medical consulting or anything like that.
But I have helped people before that have done, um, that have gotten screwed up, basically from doing mercury challenge tests which is basically just a DMSA injection or, um, oh, I can’t think of the other one.
It’s not ALA.
Basically, it’s just a challenge test where they give you the synthetic chelator in a high dose and then they measure your urine and see how many metals are in there.
The problem with that and the problem with why the hair test and stuff like that can be inaccurate is because if your body has a high body burden of toxicity and it’s not currently detoxing, you could have tons of heavy metals and the hair test or the whatever is going to come back as low or nothing.
It’s because the stuff is stored away and you’re not actively, you know, you haven’t cleansed yourself or you haven’t fixed your organs or you haven’t fixed your gut or you haven’t done, you know, any sauna or you haven’t done anything to allow things to change.
And so that’s why the same person without doing, like you could do an HMT test or you could do a challenge test six months from now, do one today and do one six months from now and not do anything else and you probably get two totally different results.
Right?
So, I don’t know.
I have changed my stance on that.
I used to really want to do hair mineral analysis which is useful for other things but being accurate on metals, I don’t know.
I mean it’s cool now because every time I get one it’s zero on the metals, right?
My minerals are still a little out of whack which is not a good sign.
There could actually still be some metals in there just based on that.
But, it’s kind of good or at least reassuring to never see a spike anymore.
But I attribute that to other things.
Let’s see.
Two things you forgot to ask.
It says, “First off, like you said about activated charcoal, you don’t want to take a lot because it’ll wipe out a lot of the good things in the gut that you need.”
I’ve tried a few times.
That’s my stance.
So that’s been my personal experience.
I won’t take activated charcoal for more than a week.
Some people take it all the time and they say that it doesn’t give them an issue.
But for me personally, that’s just too much of an intestinal binder.
I don’t like that.
“Does the intro straw wipe out the good as well or is it something you can take more often to clear out toxins and metals?”
I don’t know the technical answer.
For me personally, I can take it as much as I want.
No ill effects.
I think of it as a more gentle binder.
It doesn’t necessarily mess with regular gut bacteria as much as something else would.
And it’s a little bit gentler than say like bentonite clay or something like that.
It’s very clean.
It’s very subtle.
I don’t think people that I’ve recommended it to get the same constipation issues that they do sometimes if they take an overabundance of bentonite clay or activated charcoal.
Again, do a little self-experimentation though.
“The second thing I took was liposomal form of glutathione.
I noticed after that my head was very cloudy and I was out of it for most of the day.
Do you think this links up with the ALA issues?”
Yeah.
I’ve taken glutathione before.
It didn’t really have any positive or negative effects at one time.
And then after that it definitely had some negative effects.
But again, it all goes back to everything else.
Is your body detoxing?
Have you given it the right homeostasis or the right environment to do its thing?
Is there other stuff going on that’s kind of getting in the way?
Glutathione, if you take a shit ton of glutathione you can also take NAC to naturally produce more glutathione.
And acetylcysteine, you might like that.
You want to research what happens when you have a ton of glutathione.
What happens after that?
And so if there’s a weak link in your chain because that’s going to produce the desired result that you’re looking for.
But if there’s a weak link in the chain after that and there’s no detox pathway for the stuff that can actually be excreted or it’s not going to work the way that you want it to, something else is probably the culprit.
And so it would be impossible for me to know.
That’s pretty much all I know about the binders as it pertains to your situation.
Hopefully, like I said, I know this was all over the place just off the cuff, just answering your question, but this would have been like an hour of me typing in an email.
So hopefully there was one tidbit in there or something that helped somebody.
Have a great day guys.